I thought the avatar was my personal space.

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Maybe rounding it to differentiate will solve it.

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jeremysmithco
jeremysmithco

Hey @aquila! Itā€™s funny, I was actually wrestling with this very thing for a while. I actually did exactly what you said and went with fully round user avatars, and then decided to go back for some reason.

I think youā€™re right, it is a bit confusing, especially the first time you come into the interface.

Ok, Iā€™m going to give this some thought and might just go back to fully round user avatars. Or find another way to distinguish.

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marcoroth
marcoroth

I like how Discord solves this by just using the logo and the horizontal line:

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adrianthedev
adrianthedev

Wellā€¦ in discord thatā€™s your private conversations, not your space, per-se.

Iā€™d go for a bigger distinction woudl be to move it from there to a different place. Maybe in the top navbar to the right?
Or keep it there but make it even more distinctive.

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adrianthedev
adrianthedev

Aaaand I wouldnā€™t make them full circles. Those are reserved for ā€œclick to manage your profile
avatarsā€.


jeremysmithco
jeremysmithco

I like how Discord solves this by just using the logo and the horizontal line:

@marcoroth I had had that thought as wellā€¦does seem like separating would at least show some distinction.

Iā€™d go for a bigger distinction woudl be to move it from there to a different place. Maybe in the top navbar to the right?

@adrianthedev I had actually started with the user avatar up in the top right of the navbar, but then it felt like it was unclear what the context was for the left nav panel for account:

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Those are reserved for ā€œclick to manage your profile avatarsā€.

@adrianthedev Can you say more about this? I wasnā€™t sure what you meant.


adrianthedev
adrianthedev

Oh, yeah, sure.

I meant the avatar that most services have in the top right corner that people use to access their settings, billing information and sign out links.

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adrianthedev
adrianthedev

But you have to tell me more about this markdown editor. Is it custom made?

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People love this markdown editor, for good reason šŸ˜‚

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jeremysmithco
jeremysmithco

I meant the avatar that most services have in the top right corner that people use to access their settings, billing information and sign out links.

@adrianthedev Ah, got it, thanks! šŸ‘Œ Yes, that makes sense.

But you have to tell me more about this markdown editor. Is it custom made?

The toolbar is using @github/markdown-toolbar-element. Iā€™m also using @github/text-expander-element for at-mentions and @github/session-resume for persisting the post to session storage. Iā€™ve wired everything up with Stimulus and Turbo, as those libraries are lower-level. Iā€™ve also got a drag-and-drop file uploader thatā€™s based on an earlier version I wrote about here.

Thereā€™s more to come with the editor, too! This is one area that I think makes a huge difference for writing online.

Iā€™m hoping to write this all up and share my implementation when I get the chance!

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adrianthedev
adrianthedev

This is awesome! I didnā€™t know itā€™s open source. Thanks!

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jeremysmithco
jeremysmithco

Sure thing! ā˜ŗļø


kanejamison
kanejamison

If avatar was bottom of column with line separator above it that would match other user settings. But if you want to emphasize that itā€™s the inbox/bookmarks ā€˜dashboardā€™ area, perhaps separator below and keeping it up top.

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jeremysmithco
jeremysmithco

@kanejamison Thanks! I had almost the exact thought process. And yeah, I do think I want to keep that emphasis on the Inbox, Bookmarks, and (hopefully soon) Draft topics.

Relegating it to the bottom would be an easier match of expectations for people coming over from Slackā€¦but I want to do more with it than just preferences and logout.

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kanejamison
kanejamison

Another option would be pushing avatar down to a user preferences menu, and leaving a top square in place that is more of an ā€œexplore icon/emojiā€.

Thatā€™d feel more like this to me:
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kanejamison
kanejamison

I love love love hitting CTRL+Shift+A in Slack communities and seeing every unread across all channels and pushing through them like that, then Iā€™ll go through my threads if there are ones Iā€™m tracking conversations on. Could be cool to give that feel to the inbox and let it span communities. Right now I have to jump down each slack in the sidebar and go through the same inbox triage.

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jeremysmithco
jeremysmithco

Another option would be pushing avatar down to a user preferences menu, and leaving a top square in place that is more of an ā€œexplore icon/emojiā€.

I like that ideaā€¦Iā€™m planning to get a custom logo/icon doneā€¦and that might work well for that spot.


jeremysmithco
jeremysmithco

Could be cool to give that feel to the inbox and let it span communities.

Interesting, Iā€™ll think about that! Yeah, some of those mechanics were difficult to anticipate and design for ahead of actual useā€¦so I figured those would emerge over time. I think youā€™re hitting on an issue I was starting to notice as well: ā€œhow do I easily see all the unreads for topics Iā€™m not following?ā€


kanejamison
kanejamison

For Slack communities everything is either A) historical, B) new and I havenā€™t seen it yet, or C) Iā€™m following it for new replies.

So Slack Unreads view shows me all of B. And Threads view shows me all of C. Everything else that has conversation activity I have explicitly chosen not to follow unless I seek it out.

I think that is close enough to what old school forums would be as wellā€¦ Either Iā€™m in the conversation or Iā€™ve chosen not to follow it or itā€™s a new conversation and I need to decide whether to follow or ignore it.

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